| This interveiw was done via the post in September 1998 and comes from the Czech fanzine "Hlubouka Orba" which is produced by Filip who plays guitar in "MRTVA Budoucnost" (a splendid band). None of the zine is in English. It features all usual reveiws, scene reports, collumns by people active in the Czech scene, and interveiws with Spazz, Final Exit, Felix Havoc, Malignant Tumour, Tian An Men Records...If you want a copy try writing to Filip at: Grohova 39, Brno 602, Czech Republic. He's a great guy and will be more than happy to tell you all about the Czech scene. Don't forget the I.R.C. |
| 1) Please tell us for the begining something about yourself (whatever you feel is important) and how you got into punk/HC? |
Micky) Im 34 years old and I work as a Housing Officer for a local authority (local government/ council). I work in one of the poorest, most violent and crime ridden area of the North East of England. Its not the greatest job in the world but the money I earn allows me to do the things I like to do such as be in a Punk/HC band when most people my age have long since grown up!
I got into
punk when I was thirteen which was a fuck of a long time ago! The
reason why I got into it was because I was just getting into
music and Id just been bought my first record player. I
didnt have any brothers or sisters to copy, and my friends
were just discovering punk as well so it wasnt as if I was
copying off them either. I suppose it was what we became aware of
first. So I dont have a dodgy collection of collection of
heavy metal LPs to be embarrassed by or be proud of.
The first two records I ever bought were Hong Kong
Garden by Siouxsie and the Banshees and The Day The
World Turned Dayglow by X-Ray Spex. Pretty cool eh? Well it
might have been cool had I managed to buy both records with a
picture cover and the X-Ray Spex one in coloured vinyl!!! Still
after that I caught on pretty quick to prerequisites of record
collecting.
When I got into punk it was pretty easy to do so as you
didnt really have to look that far to find things going on.
There were plenty of places to hang out and plenty of people to
hang out with. Now at thirty four (old git) theres no where
to hang out (in Newcastle that is...theres plenty of other
cool places elsewhere in the world) and very few people who I
actualy want to hang out with. What Keeps me going these days is
my punk and hardcore friends in other places and the few
remaining people in Newcastle who are decent (not all Punks) and
the cool places I in a band since then.
Karin) I got into punk about twelve years ago when I heard of a Belgian band called The Dirty Scums, me and my friend went to see them and kind of liked it...my parents really hated me going to places like that so I loved it even more...punk is about partly about resisting right? Anyway after a while I heard of bands like Ripcord, Heresy and Infest and really got into the lyrics and life perspective which those bands seemed to scream about...
Nick) My name is Nick, Im one of two singers, and one of five people in Ebola. Ive been in the band since 1996. My first ever gig with ebola was supporting Los Crudos (arrgghh) in a pub in Newcastle which is now a pile of rubble. I got into punk/hardcore in approx 1986, through reading the skateboard magazine "thrasher" and in particular Pushead's regular column "the puszone", which spurred me on to track down obscure bits of vinyl from all over the place. Some of my formative "listening" experiences centered around Septic Death, Accused, Sucidal Tendencies, the "Wild Riders Of Boards" compilation (Christ On Parade, Accused, Corrosion Of Conformity..;etc) and "Cleanse The Bacteria"....thats where it all started and Im still into it, yet active (to a certain degree) in the 1in12 Club here in Bradford, putting on gigs, and running a record label & full time distribution.
| 2} I know that you (Micky ) played in Generic, then in One By One and now you play in Ebola. Tell us more about this your "musical Career"... |
M) In total I have played guitar in 6 bands. My first band was The Blood Robots (named after an LP by The Androids of Mu), Sned was the other guitarist and Dave who did the crazy drawings on our last 7 played the drums. Of the various other members we had along the way the only two I have any knowledge of, one is a police man and the other is an Lecturer in English. We released two demo tapes and a split flexi disc with another Newcastle band Reality Control.
Next came
Generic (named after a Flipper LP. If I had a pound for every
person who said to me I saw your LP in a record shop the
other day... blank look from me The one with the
yellow cover with the big fish on it... Id never need
to work again!). I see a few of the ex members around the place
from time to time. As far as I know only Sned and I are still
actively involved. Wizz the singer works as an ambulance driver
and Terry the original bass player (and later guitarist after I
left) worked as a baker. Terry Played bass in HDQ for a while but
I dont think hes been in a band since then.
When I was in Generic we released a demo tape (part of which was
later re-released as a split 10 with Pleasant Valley
Children), the For Free and Liberated South Africa
7 and the split LP with the Electro Hippies.
After this I wasnt in a serious band for about four years concentrating my energies on other things (see question 8).
I eventually was persuaded to form another band by one of my flat mates who played bass, we found a drummer and a violin player and formed a folk punk band called Anything But That. We werent that folky but the violin gave the impression that we were. After our second gig our bass player left and a nice young man called Alec came up to me after the gig and offered his services as bass player. We released our demo as a benefit tape for the Poll Tax Rioters and managed a three date UK tour before splitting up.
Alec and I wanted to play harsher and harder music and the others hadnt the time or the energy to put into the band any more. So Alec and I got in the car and drove down to Leeds to see my old mate Sned and conned him into forming a band with us. One By One was born and so another chapter started in my life. I got to go on tour in Europe for the first time, I met Karin (my partner) who eventually became our singer, I met lots of great people and got to go places and see things which I never would have done otherwise.
One By One faded away some time in 1995 and Ebola came into being around about the same time; both bands were technically in existence at the same time.
K) I played in a band called Per Total in Belgium for a little while and then moved to the UK where I joined One By one, I was really influenced by women vocalists from bands like Pink Turds In Space and Nausea. I enjoyed One By One, met loads of really nice people during our tours but in the end musically and vocally I wanted to do something faster and more brutal... One By One kind of died out and Ebola eventually happened...
| 3) Ebola released LP and EP and there is quite visible difference between these two vinyls, your music is now faster and harsher, why you decided to change your style? Weren't you worry that less people will be familiar with your music when it won't be so "listenable" like before? |
M) The songs
on the 7 are really what we intended the LP to sound like,
it was only our inability to play that fast and the fact that as
a band our song writing hadnt fully matured. We recorded
the LP a little too early in our existence and there are some
songs on it which we stopped playing live almost immediately
afterwards. We originally intended to record a 7 and then
when we were in the studio Sned and Alec asked us if wed be
into doing an LP instead and so we just recorded everything.
There was a year long gap between recording the LP and the
7, but we wrote a lot of the songs on the 7 quite
soon after the LP. It took us a long time to get back in the
studio as our first singer Johnny left after our first European
tour. Our New singer Nick lived in Bradford (100 miles away from
Newcastle) and then Andy moved away to Glasgow (about a 150 miles
in the opposite direction) so practising became more difficult.
We have just recorded some new stuff which is faster and harder
again! Some of these new songs are now quite old as
well!
We have had loads of problems with the band over the last year.
We asked our old drummer Chrissy to leave the band after our
second European tour as we just couldnt put up with his
behaviour any longer. After this we got a new drummer and things
just didnt work out. Instead of facing up to this we all
struggled on and ended up wasting 8 months. We acquired a second
guitarist in the middle of all of this (Andy Irvine who used to
play guitar in Scatha) but due to a combination of circumstances
(namely impending parenthood) he wasnt able to go on tour
with us.
Our new drummer (Skater who used to drum for Bloodshot and still
drums in Slain) lives in Aberdeen which is right at the top of
Scotland, this means that we now have to practice in Glasgow all
the time as its the most central point for us.
We havent written any new songs since Skater joined about 3
months ago as we were teaching him the songs so we wouldnt
have to cancel our tour of Europe and the UK with Stack.
One day we might get round to recording some stuff which as been
written more recently but even that may shock some people as our
ideas and influence are constantly changing as a band. Were not
really interested whether people like our music or not - we do it
for our own enjoyment and if people like it then thats a
bonus.
A lot of people said that the 7 was too fast but perhaps
they were expecting a faster nastier One By One rather than
Ebola. I dont see the LP as a kind of stepping stone
between One By one and the real Ebola which is the stuff on the
7. I just think that the LP came a bit too soon for us to
have fully developed an Ebola sound. The unreleased
One By One LP is a lot harder that the previous stuff and I think
that if people heard that then they would see that as a stepping
stone between One By One and the Ebola LP. Maybe the people that
think the 7 is shit should wait and see if the second One
By One LP ever comes out as they might like that instead of
moaning on to us about how were too fast and noisy for their
delicate little ears!
N) As far as I was concerned, when I first heard the LP, it knocked my fucking socks off...it was fast and clocked in at about 15 mins long with 12 songs...then I ended up joining the band a little while later, when some of the newer material was being written which was at that point "smoke screen & "dysphasia". My vocal "style" (ha ha), was always going to be different to Johnathans, and I was nevr into just replicating his style...I wanted to push it further.I think that the change in vocals is blatently obvious from the LP to the 7". Where as for the music, which is by and large written by Andy & Micky, we all get a chance to say what we like/dont like, and considering we all like pretty much the same fast as fuck thrash, I think it was ineveitable that those sounds/speeds would definately creep into the ebola sound. As far as blast beats go, they were on the LP.To be honest I dont care if people dont like us as much as before. Ive never been interested in playing a "trendy style" just to be hip like a lot of the so called "power violence" bands in the US. Ebola started with the intention of playing crazy time change hardcore/thrash and gradually we've progressed and taken on various styles (thats not always apparent when we play live or put out records...). If people dont like it, then they can always go and do somthing else...
| 4)How did the September 97 tour went? Worst/ best gig (s)? Any good tour memories, stories...whatever? Did you like the gig in Vsetin? |
M) That tour
went really well in the main, there were a few problems, as there
usually is but overall it was a good one. Worst gig was
Kaiserslautern which was organised by Berny and Ralphy from
Stack. The turn out was poor, the venue had no toilets and was
covered in anti-women graffiti. Oh and the guy we stopped with
was a complete wanker.
The best gigs for me were Vsetin in Czech and Vienna (Wien) in
Austria with the mighty Konstruct. I really enjoyed them the
most, thought the majority of the other gigs we did were great as
well. It was good to get to play with Homo Militia in Lodz
(Poland) as well.
Weve just come back from a new tour, but this time we
didnt have the time to go very far east and spent most of
our time in Germany. Our best gig by far on that tour was in
Hamburg and the worst was Antwerp. It was the most enjoyable tour
Ive ever done with any band, even though we lost loads of
money on the British gigs and I got eaten alive by the mosquitoes
in Europe.
Weve got plenty of good tour stories but I dont want
to give my secrets away here!
K) The September tour last year was really good, the gig in Vsetin was one of the two best gigs during the tour... I loved playing in Poland and your country because it seemed that people were much more into having a fun time... There were also many young people and many women at the gigs.
N) The 97 tour was by and large fucking brilliant! My first ever "euro" tour was bound to be a buzz as Id only ever been on tour in the UK. Theres so many great things that I can remember, from going to Poland and the Czech Republic (places I thought Id never go to) to playing at the legendary Zoro squat in Berlin. I guess it was almost like being in a film at times, viewing the world through a window of a van, it seemed really "cinematic". Also meeting lots of people and making contacts is always fucking great!
| 5) Why is it that in the UK there's so few people attending the gigs? I read that bands like Hiatus and Forca Macabra were playing for like 20 or 30 people when they toured in your country...It's quite strange, because UK is the country where punk was born and gave the world tons of great bands, so one would assume that the scene there must be quite vital, what do you think about it? |
M) We all
have different ideas about the British scene. I personally think
it is very fragmented and sectarian, that people dont even
consider going to see bands that are not part of their scene even
if they do enjoy the music and can relate to the ideas of the
bands.
Im not that keen on playing gigs in Britain at all
especially not in Newcastle. I dont mind playing at the 1
in 12 Club but a lot of other places are really crap. In fact the
1 in 12 Club, 120 Rats (Leeds) and the 121 Centre (London) are
more like a little piece of Europe in Britain. there are some
good places to play in the rest of the UK but England in
particular is pretty crap. Britain may be the birthplace of punk
but that really only means that there are more dodgy old punks
still on the go!
I think the
reason why Britain still churns out so many fast and angry bands
is because there still plenty of stuff to pissed off about
especially in the North and Scotland whereas Southern England
seems to be dominated by pop punk pap!
Sadly a lot of people will only come out in any great numbers for
US bands and old codger core like Doom or Oi Poloi. British bands
are an unenthusiastic second choice and European bands have to be
quite well known like Hiatus before people bother their backsides
to coming along.
N) I dont think thats strictly true...Living in Bradford, and regularly attending gigs at the 1in12 club, I can safely say that SOME gigs are badly unattended, but not all. Of course, I cant speak for the whole of the UK, but most of the "brutalfastcorethrashcrustbiscuitinwhirlwindhoovesof theapocalypse" type bands do end up playing the club. So I get to see a wide range of people at all of the gigs I go to. In the case of Forca Macabra, I have to admit to being more blown away by Austria's KONSTRUKt who supported them, who totally blew my head off. I didnt know what the hell was going on and it felt like Id taken Acid. By comparison, Forca Macabra didnt cut it. Some gigs are badly attended for a number of reasons, bad publicity, work commitments, or because a band no matter what publicity is given, just isnt interesting to a lot of people. The last time I saw HIATUS, the 1in12 Club was packed! Yeh, supporting the scene, by participation at gigs (or whatever else) is vital for a scene to thrive, ANYWHERE! But on the other hand, if FORCA MACABRA had been American it may have been another story alltogether, because it does STILL seem that people still want to see American bands at the expense of european bands.
| 6) Which do you think are the best places to play in the UK? Tell us more about the 1 in 12 Club in Bradford, it's probably the best place (from what I read from interveiws with English bands), isn't it? |
N) I think Ive answered this question in no.5!
M) Ive
already answered that to some extent...Belfast and Glasgow are
perhaps the only other places Id get really excited about...and
Eire as well but thats not in the UK. I had hoped Nick
would tell you more about the 1 in 12 Club seeing as he lives in
Bradford!
The Club as most people in the know call it has been
going for around about ten years now in a converted warehouse.
I first became aware of it through my involvement in the Northern
Anarchist Network and the Direct Action Movement (an
anarcho-syndicalist organisation) where I came into contact with
people who were trying to get the club off the ground.
At the time they didnt even have the building and were
holding benefit gigs in pubs to get enough cash together to get
the building. In the end I think the local council gave them the
most fucked up and derelict building they could find in the hope
that theyd spend so much time trying to put the building
back into working order they would have the time to be
politically active, also I think the council just wanted to see
to see them fail! They didnt ! and Club members
are still politically active!Eventually after about two years
spent almost completely rebuilding the place the The
Club finally opened its doors and has managed to stay open
ever since. Legally it is run as a Private Members Club but in
reality it is more like a co-op and is more or less run as one.
The Club has a permanent display with all of this
information on it in the bar, but for those people not able to
pop down there for a quick pint and a bit of a read then I think
my potted history is reasonably accurate.
| 7) What kind of work do you and the rest of Ebola do? Haven't you dreamed when you were younger about working in some different job than most of people (like in some community owned business or some DIY thing)? Now, when you are older, do you think that you can still achieve it? Masskontrol quoted in one of their songs "work has killed more lives and spirits than every war combined", would you agree? |
M) I work as
a Housing officer as I said in question 1 but the job has quite a
lot of community involvement in it. I work very closely with
tenants groups and participate in an Estate Management Committee
where the tenants and I try to decide ways which we can improve
the quality of life for people living on the estate. This
doesnt always work too well but it is a small attempt at
giving people more control over their own lives.
I have in the past been involved in projects to set up a
co-operative vegan cafe and a Free School both of
which never came to fruition. I also was heavily involved in two
music co-ops and a food co-op.
I think my
dreams now revolve around setting up a small business and being
my own boss so that I dont have to kow-tow to any
one...other perhaps the almighty customer. I think ideally
Id love to live in Belgium and run a small
brewery...however I think thats not that likely...living in
Belgium and Teaching English as Foreign Language might be an
option but I dont have the qualification to do that as yet!
On a totally idealistic level a global revolution on
anarcho-syndicalist lines would be pretty tremendous.
K) I work as an engineer for a Japanese company... I like my job because t keeps my mind sane and active but I do not intend to work for the rest of my life.. I would like to see as much places in the world as I can during my life. Sometimes it is also hard to justify my job with my DIY and anti-capitalist ideals...
N) I dont work at all in an "official" manner. I run my record label and its subsequent distribution, which takes up all of my time. I never stop work as I work from home. I enjoy what I do, I dont get paid for it.
| 8) You have quite good, I would say "political" lyrics, but I would like to know if you are also "politically" active in any way in your normal lives? I read that you (Micky) left Generic to concentrate more on political activities, so I assume that Ebola is surelly not one of those "all talk talk, no action" bands... |
M) It
depends what you mean by politically active...Im not
involved in any anarchist type political grouping because at the
moment I feel that there are none that represent my political
viewpoint. Also I dont really have the time to do much
other than educational and propaganda type work as I have a full
time job.
As I work for the local government most of the action I would be
taking would be against my employer, which would be a quick route
to becoming unemployed! I am however a Shop Steward (work place
representative) for my Trade Union, and was until very recently
also the Health and Safety representative.
I would say that Ebola are a politically aware band and we see
the band as propaganda vehicle to a certain extent but the band
are not politically active as such. The band takes up so much of
our time that even if we didnt have jobs which prevented us
being involved in overtly political activities we probably
wouldnt have the time to do anything.
After I left Generic I became far more heavily involved in anarchist and anarcho-syndicalist politics. I had been pretty involved when I was in Generic but after that I started travelling to meetings all around the country and became far more heavily involved.
I was
involved in a group which produced a free anarchist newspaper
(Tyneside Free News), which wasnt really free as we paid
for ourselves out of our giros and wage packets! It was around
this time that I was involved ion the various co-ops I mentioned
in question 7.
I was also briefly involved in the production of an
anarcho-syndicalist paper called...can you guess...The
Syndicalist.
At that time I was heavily involved in strike support work, often
getting up at 3 or 4 a.m. to go and lend a hand on picket lines,
and then Id go to work after that!
Iwas also still actively hunt sabbiing at that time and quite
often I was torn between conflicting demands on my time and
energies.
During this
period I spent a month in Spain with some friends and we managed
to meet up with the local branch of the CNT who extended their
hospitality to us, and we also met up with CNT veterans from the
Spanish Civil War which I personally felt very empowering. I
figured that if they could still be fighting for a better world
in the twilight of their lives then there was no reason why I
should pack in!
Eventually
the Direct Action Movement decided to reinvent itself as a trade
union which I thought, due to its size, was ludicrous. Time
to leave I thought...eventually I joined Class War as the
alternatives were not that inviting. They seemed to be picking up
a lot of support from people involved in the punk scene and
people whod become disillusioned with so called
revolutionary left wing groups.
There were about four of us in the local group and we became very
involved in the national organisation. To the extent that we
produced and edited (and almost wholly wrote) an issue of Class
Wars theoretical magazine The Heavy Stuff.
Eventually I became disillusioned with the centralist tendencies
of Class War and in particular became very suspicious of Tim
Scargill who went on to become the National Organiser. After this
I felt I had to resign or compromise my personal beliefs. I have
not since then found any organisation with I would care to
associate myself.
Unfortunately my distrust of Tim Scargill was proved to have been well founded as it subsequently turned out that in his youth he had been a member of either the National Front or The British National Party. I have since heard it rumoured that he was an MI5 plant, certainly he was the main influence in pushing for a more centralised power structure in Class War which ultimately led to the break up of the organisation. Perhaps Class War would have died a natural death after certain period of time in any case but I honestly think that the actions of Tim Scargill, whatever his political motivations, brought about its untimely demise.
| 9) What do you think are the best and worst things in HC/ punk scene? How do you (as someone who is in it for quite a long tim in it) see it's progression, is it now better or worse than a few years back? I really liked Karins article in booklet of "Imprication" EP, wouldn't you like to elaborate on it a bit? |
K) I wrote the little piece from the EP because one day it just became clear to me that I was so lucky to be involved in something like punk and hardcore. It also made me realise how hard it is to explain to anybody outside this world what it is like inside it... I mean, I meet tons of new people every year , people write to each other just for fun or to trade things and its just amazing... It really made me happy realising this before it was too late, I guess people become disillusioned with the scene because they expect so much about it but really there are so many good and powerfull things about that make it all seem fine. The article really didnt mean any more than... Just think about it, we are so lucky to be part of a group of people all over the world who care and who can do things without the outside world having anything to do with it.
M) Punk is like a revolving door...I realised that a lot of the people involved these days dont share the same views as I have on vegetarianism, veganism, anti-corporatism, anti -capitalism, co-operatism and anarcho-syndicalism.
I laboured
under the misapprehension that everyone who was currently
involved in HC/Punk came from the same background as I...listened
to Crass records as a kid, got involved in politics and animal
rights activities and just happened to like fast music... I have
attempted to address this in some of the lyrics on our new split
7 i.e. Rovers Return which is an anti hunting
song from a different perspective, its a true story about a
fox hound who is forcibly retired by the hunt with a bullet in
the back of the skull.
Death To The Shit Breed which points out that if you
still eat meat after all the health scares in recent year then
you deserve all you get!
Malevolence draws links between male violence and the
passive acceptance of macho behaviour and pornography which is
beginning to creep back into the punk scene.
| 10) In the times of Generic existence there used to be quite popular "Britcore" style with bands like Heresy, Ripcord, Concrete Sox...what is your opinion on this wave of UK hardcore? Where you friends with these bands or did you play with them? Where all these people/ bands went? |
M) The only
bands I remember happily accepting the Britcore tag were bands
that went on to become commercially successful to some degree.
Whether this was as a result of the publicity they received
because of buying into the image or because they always intended
to make it big I dont really know.
Certainly some bands were more than happy to lap up their five
minutes of fame, whether they made any money out of I dont
know. Some obviously are still making money out of it. Others had
more integrity and didnt sell their soul to Digby Pearson
(the guy who owned Earache before he sold it to Sony) and are in
my opinion far more credible for it.
Britcore was a crap music business tag to describe something that just happened as people became influenced by early eighties US Hardcore after listening to Crass and Discharge and decided to have a go themselves. Larm and BGK were also on the go at the same in Holland but no one from the music press decided to invent Dutchcore - yet these bands have as much influence on present day fastcore bands as shitcore ever did.
Generic played with all of these bands and we were friends with some of them.
Daz Russel who organised a couple of the first big Britcore fests at the Mermaid in Birmingham now makes his money organising commercial punk festivals where he persuades crap old punk band to reform and lots of money is made by all apparently...perhaps in years to come hell organise crap old Britcore festivals!
Where are they now? Good question!
Nick gives some explanations in question 15, Concrete Sox have also reformed and ENT never (sadly) went away...
N) Britcore was a load of shit, and I remember it quite well, it certainly helped labels like Earache and Peaceville to become the pieces of shit they are now.And cemented the name "Naplam Death" in the minds of teenage metallers and middle aged mums. It was a contrived exercise in a certain uk music paper to hype and make a scene happen, with which it was later destroyed and ridiculed. The funny thing is, the paper end up going broke! Also, one of the reasons why I remember "shitcore" was because it happened shortly after I got into punk and one of the main influeneces or "mentor's" on me at that time was a guy called Reevsy, who started Heresy, but had left them (under a black cloud!) before Id met him. Unfortuanetly my mum wouldnt let me go and see any of the bands at that stage as I was too young! In fact I think the first ever punk band I saw was EXIT CONDITION (who had a 7" on Pusmort) who shared a guitarist with BROKEN BONES (yuk!). I missed out on some great bands, Christ On Parade, Soulside & Government Issue to name a few.
| 11) In this issuue of Hluboká Orba where your interview will be also sort of polemic about anti CD articles from Active Minds7", so i would like to know from you: What do you think of CD's? And what do you think about Active Minds? |
M) Active minds are old friends... I used to love it when they used to stop at my house after gigs and Id keep them up all night arguing about politics and music until their coach home was due! In the end I think they even stopped bringing sleeping bags as they knew I wouldnt let them get any sleep! They are two of the nicest caring and intelligent people Ive ever met...but I dont agree with them on a number of things...CDs is not really one of them though.
CDs are crap. I much prefer vinyl for punk records, classical music and jazz are better on CD, but punk music on CD is a complete waste of time. Karin and I have only just succumbed to buying a CD player within the last six months due mainly to the impossibility in Britain of getting some stuff on vinyl anymore. I think the only excuse for Punk/HC CD only releases, or Punk/HC CD releases at all, is discography CDs. Funnily enough I hope to put out a Generic CD discography in the next twelve months and I can justify that as it wouldnt all fit on one record...and when you think of all the more useful things you can do with a piece of plastic than make a record out of it...!!!
N) CD's?
Shite. Active Minds? Shite. But of course Im only joking about
the latter....I dont particularly like CD's, but at the same time
they arent going to go away overnight. Its a fact that
"younger" people today do have their first contact
through buying/listening to music via the Cd format, and if they
have a stereo system that doesnt have a record palyer (like so
many do nowadays...) then they're gonna buy Cd's or tapes.
I own a CD player (6 months old) and have a few CD's but Id
rather own vinyl over CD's anyday.
I also sell CD's through my distro, but always try to get the
Vinyl format over CD's. Sometimes I sell both, so its accessible
to all. I also try and keep the prices low on them. Good music
doesnt have to be expensive music!
Active Minds
are good people and definately stick by what they say and as is
often the case take a lot of flack for sticking their necks on
the line. But to me thats what punk is about, and Ive done a fair
amount amont of that myself. And to an extent I think Ebola is
considered a boring "right on/PC" band because we do
voice our opinions about things that concern/affect us. Instead
of just wanting to "fuck shit up in the pit" when we
play. If you want that kind of thing, go to a metal gig. Or a
Sick Of It All/Agnostic Front gig. I dont consider that kind of
hardcore to be a part of the DIY scene or my world at all. Macho
pricks=fuck off.
Anyway, gone off on a tangent there...(as per usual..), I
resisted the CD "menace" (ha ha) for years, and I think
we can all say we've seen the demise of the "record
shop" in the UK. Theyre few and far between, and usually on
the edge of bankruptcy. CD's have taken over! Record shops are
now a sea of mediocrity, instead of a sea of excitement. There
are a number of arguements for and against CD's, but for me, I
buy them rarely (for Jazz music for example..). Theyre a symptom
of something larger, its your choice to support that or not....
| 12) You toured there with One By One, Ebola will have a split EP there released, so what do you think about USA and the HC/ punk scene over there? |
K) When One By One toured the USA we met so many lovely people, and really I came to the conclusion that no matter where you are there will always be the common language called punk, everybody understands what it stands for (apart from the stupid Exploited [exploited] drunk punks who really do not have a clue what punk stands for). People really looked after us when we were over there, the gigs were good particularly the all ages gigs. I can only say that I dont think any different about HC and punk over there than over here, my favourite band ever comes from the states....
M) I thought
Id hate the states when we went over there, but I thought
it was great. Most of the people we met were really cool, we
played with some cool bands and had a great time.
It wasnt really that much different from Europe, other than
the architecture, lack of a language barrier and a common
currency. It made me realise how Americanised Europe has become,
and how a European Superstate will perhaps only be differentiated
from the US Superpower by their wealth and the fact that we have
better beer and some of us put mayonnaise on our chips!
I dont have a problem with releasing our records on a US label as we well either release it here or make sure its readily available through us and the usual DIY distros.
| 13) At least two of you (correct me if I'm wrong) have there own record labels, tell us more about it, which records are planned? |
13. Yeh, its called "Enslaved", and weve done 4 7"s to date with a fifth coming out in a month or so. This is what weve put out so far: Manfat/Hard To Swallow: split 7", The End Of The Century Party: Songs Dances Drums 7", Slain/State Of Filth: split 7", Suffer/Urko: split 7" and soon the Minute Manifesto/Shank split 7". Lots of split 7"s and only one full length 7" by EOTCP...but we arent in a position to offer or afford to pay for LP's or recordings, so we have to do it as cheap as possible. This is one of the reasons why I do split label releases with other labels such as Flat Earth, Smack In The Mouth, Boy Useless & Refusenik. It makes it cheaper, and theres an element of co-operation and input from all involved which is how it should be. We say we're DIY, some might think we're not...but Ill kick anyones ass who says so! When you have to be good at 10-15 jobs to do this kind of thing, I think thats DIY. And to me, DIY is about taking back as many aspects of control into our lives as possible. And with so many bands using the DIY underground to move on to bigger and better things (as happened during "Britcore"), its up to individuals or the "scene as a whole" to take responsibility and tell those bands to fuck off.
NB at this point the fact that Andy's Answers
are missing is quite apparent!!!
If you want to know what he said write to Filip!!!
| 14) Is it true that the UK today is one of the very few countries in Europe where facsists are still not a big threat? Do you think that it is because the UK has for so long time racialy mixed or is it because the Anti Fascist movement is so active there? Could you give us some more info about the AFA and Anti Nazi League, about there activities and why they don't like each other? |
M) Im not that up on AFA these days but the Anti Nazi League have always been a recruiting arm of the Socialist Workers Party. Ironically few members of this organisation remain socialist after theyve left college, fewer still work, and all they seem to do other than sell papers and tell people how to live there lives is to go to student partys! A little unfair perhaps as there is a small number of decent people in the SWP and some genuine anti fascist in the ANL.
However the SWP disbanded the ANL in the early 1980s as it said that fascism had been defeated and was no longer a threat (!?!) and that the best way to fight fascism was to join the SWP(!?!).
Predictably a few years ago as numbers in the SWP were beginning to decline and their lack of anti-fascist activity was being made more obvious by the actions of AFA, Class War and Red Action they decided it was time to reform the ANL!
| 15) Nottingham has been (or still is?) home of summer punx picnics, did you attend it? What's your opinion of bands like the Varukers, GBH, UK Subs, Special Duties etc...i.e. about these old bands - some of them recently reformed and are quite often praised in punk circles? |
M) I have never had any interest in any of these bands other than the UK Subs who I stopped liking when their guitarist threw a dead cat into the audience when they played in Newcastle.
None of these bands reformed for any reason other than for the money that people like Daz Russell are happy to pay them. Its quite obvious that Daz, or Darren as likes to be known as now, makes a nice little living from this. DIY Punk? I think not...these people are about as punk as a bank manager!
If I want to spend time with a load of anti social drunken sexist racist homophobic chaos punks who want to beat my head in, or the pathetic apologists who hang round with them and arent quite as overtly offensive, then I dont need to bother travelling all the way to Nottingham. Theres more than enough idiots here in Newcastle. Not all people who go to Punx Picnics are like this of course but a lot are, so Id rather spend my time doing other things than sitting in a park watching people sniff glue, drink cider, vomit and get arrested.
N) Yeh, Nottingham & the Derby Punx Picnics have been going for years. I nearly moved to Nottingham 2 years ago, but Im glad I didnt. It seems to me to be full of bloody poseurs and idiots!
The UK bands that have reformed like the Varukers? I dont really care, it doesnt affect me in the slightest, though there has been a lot of this "reforming" thing going on just lately...maybe Generic will reform when Flat Earth coughs up a huge pay check?
The Varukers were going to play with RATOS DE PORAO at the 1in12 Club, but someone told the Varukers to fuck off cus they were "capitalists" or something or other, so we all missed out on RDP!
RIPCORD have also reformed and two ex HERESY members have a new band called 666 Dead.
| 16) Quite short question: What do you know about the Czech Republic? |
M) In the greater scheme of things perhaps not so much. If my memory of history lessons serves me right; Czechoslovakia existed for about 15 to twenty years prior to WW1 and then was enlarged under the Treaty of Versailles which later gave the third Reich the excused to annexe part of the country (the Sudetenland/Saar) which included the majority of mineral wealth and industry and more importantly the fixed border defences. This made things quite easy for the subsequent invasion. This is mentioned a little in Strategically Unimportant.
More recently I know that following the collapse of the State Communist system the Velvet Revolution brought Václav Havel (a leading playwright and dissident) to the presidency. After this the country split into Czech and Slovakia.
I know little of the economics or politics of the country.
I know a little about the football clubs of Czech.
I know from the video I have seen Punks in Prague that there is a growing fascist problem and that quite a lot of people who were punks became nazi skins.
I know that there is quite thriving punk scene in Czech but not so many bands playing brutal fastcore stuff other than Mrtva Budocnost and Pangs of Remorse.
I know that the Czechs were heavily involved in the development of bottom fermented (cold fermented) beers, and were the first to develop Pilsener beer which has become a much abused style in Western Europe. Is that enough?
N) That the people we met there last year were fucking brilliant. That everything there was Unbelievably cheap and that the country itself was very beautiful! I am sorry, Im a thick English wanker. Thats all I know having only been once. I know something of the political events, but Im not going to embarrass myself in trying to show you how much I dont know. Filip, why not tell us of what its like in Czech ReP?
| 17) Ok, that's all, feel free to add anything... |
K) Thank you for giving ebola the chance to talk, you will regret when you see how long our responses are.... hello to the lovely ladies and boys we met last year...we will hopefully come and visit you again... take care.
M) I really enjoyed playing Czech and Poland last year and I hope that we will get the opportunity to play there again. It was nice to go to places that you would never get the chance to visit if you weren't in a band. The people were a lot more enthusiastic than people in Western Europe who are far too spoilt in more ways than one. Take care, stay free, and most importantly have fun.
N) We just recorded 5 songs for a split 7" on Clean Plate with a band called SERVITUDE who feature some folks from Deformed Conscience. That should be out this year. We're also on an upcoming comp on Bad Card Records/France with lots of trendy US/Japanese "power violence" bands...And god knows what else. Thanks for the interview, take care!